UNTOLD MEDICINE
Come with me on a journey to the unexplored side of medicine where we speak with rebel doctors, radical herbalists, unorthodox healers, and patients who have healed themselves. Explore the intersection between science & spirituality and discover the power within you. Hosted by Dr. Michele Burklund
UNTOLD MEDICINE
Sarah Jane Smith: Delving into Quantum Healing Hypnosis Therapy and Unleashing Profound Inner Transformation
Have you ever considered that the key to overcoming your deepest issues might lie within your own subconscious? Sarah Jane Smith, an adept quantum healing hypnotherapist, joins us for an enlightening session where we unpack the transformative effects of Quantum Healing Hypnosis Therapy. As we journey with Sarah, she shares her inspiring path following the footsteps of Dolores Cannon, and how she guides individuals to confront their past traumas and emotional scars to pave a path for profound healing.
Throughout our conversation, we traverse the landscape of the mind, examining the role of the superconscious in personal well-being. Sarah imparts the staggering notion that we hold the capacity to manifest and dissolve our own ailments. With her captivating stories, including the remarkable healing of a former police officer, Sarah illustrates the phenomenal capacity of hypnotherapy to address the core of our issues, enveloping us in the potential for instantaneous recovery and unlocking insights from past lives or ancestral experiences.
Wrapping up our talk, Sarah leaves us with a glimpse into the transformative journeys of her diverse clientele, from surgeons to police officers, all finding solace and revelations within their sessions. We also tackle the limitations of conventional medicine and the awe-inspiring nature of spiritual awakenings. Join us for this episode, where curiosity meets the cutting edge of healing, and embrace the stories of empowerment that challenge the confines of traditional medicine.
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Welcome to the podcast Medicine Untold and come with me on a journey to the unexplored side of medicine, where we speak with rebel doctors, radical herbalists, unorthodox healers and patients who have healed themselves. Explore the intersection between science and spirituality and discover the power within you. I'm your host, dr Michelle Birkeland, licensed naturopathic doctor, botanical alchemist and practicing physician.
Dr. Michele Burklund:Hi everyone, welcome today. Today we have Sarah Jane Smith with us, a hypnotherapist, and I'm going to read a little bit about her background, too, before we get started. So Sarah Jane Smith is a quantum healing hypnotherapist, a psychic and a medium that can tap into the past lives of her clients. Sarah is the founder of Quantum Hypno, located in UK, and does online sessions around the world. She specializes in quantum healing, hypnosis technique and beyond quantum healing. Sarah is an in-demand hypnotherapist with celebrities and millionaires from around the world. Her latest film, escape the Matrix, has been officially selected by the Roma and Tokyo Short Film Festivals. So welcome, sarah. Thank you so much for joining us.
Dr. Michele Burklund:Yeah.
Sarah Jane Smith:Yeah, well, you know, when you, when you talk about, I am a quantum healing hypnosis, and you know, or hypnotherapist, I was going to say hypnosis expert, or hypnotherapist, it's quite a mouthful, and you know, or hypnotherapist, I was going to say hypnosis expert, or hypnotherapy, it's quite a mouthful. And that's why we sure we were trying to shorten and shorten and shorten it, but still get the you know the um, the idea in. So we, we just devised quantum hypno, so I founded quantum hypno because it's short and it's to the point. You know, if that, if that makes sense yeah, yeah, that's.
Dr. Michele Burklund:That's perfect. It is a mouthful, but it's impressive too. I mean, it captivates everything, and kind of what you do with the quantum.
Sarah Jane Smith:Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, I mean, as soon as I say to people, you know, when you're at parties or you're having conversations, when they say what do you do? And I say, oh, here we go, I'm a hypnotherapist, wow. And everybody's, everybody's so interested, interested, they say the usual things like would you make me into a chicken or could you? Could you, you know, make me hand over my money? And it's, it's all of these. You know belief systems, or can you, you know? Do you do mk ultra? Do you do mind control? And actually it's so simple, you know, um, we work with. Let me just begin. I started. I found Dolores Cannon about six years ago Now. I was following I'm an athlete, I'm a swimmer and a runner and I still love running, you know and I was following an African American Navy SEAL called David Goggins. So I remember one day looking them up on YouTube and typing in David Goggins, and it started saying Dolores Cannon. And I said no, david Goggins. And it said again do you mean Dolores Cannon? And the third time I thought this is ridiculous. So I started watching this video of this wonderful woman, dolores Cannon, and immediately I said that's it, that's it. I know what I'm going to do for the rest of my life because it was the way she described her job and it was. She truly cared about people. I don't know whether you've ever seen a video of her work, but it was mind blowing.
Sarah Jane Smith:And I think at the time also, when I discovered Dolores Cannon, I was getting very frustrated. I knew I couldn't find the answers on BBC or even, you know, discovery Channel. I wanted to know the truth. Look who built the pyramids. Who was it? I'm not. It's not good enough anymore. I wanted more and more and more answers and I feel like I didn't find this job, or I call it a calling. It found me.
Sarah Jane Smith:So I remember thinking you know this, this is me, this this is me because I want to really help clients. And I remember her talking about the fact she talks about the super conscious, which she shortened to the SC, because everything in life is simple, michelle, the answers are always simple. She called it the SC, or the clients called it the higher self, or the oversoul, or the universal energy, and Delores started describing this energy, that under hypnosis.
Sarah Jane Smith:And I'll tell you a little bit about how I work with people. It's very simple, how it comes through the client and it shows you where the client's issues began, and it also gives them the answers to all the life questions that they've ever wanted. You know, I asked them to come with five questions about their life and five questions about their body, and it also gives them instant healing. Instant healing and I remember thinking this is amazing. I want to try this for myself. So I qualified, I did the first level of quantum healing, hypnosis and we had to advertise in the public for free, so I had all sorts of people answering my ads and they came to my home and I remember this one particular man I called Dave.
Sarah Jane Smith:I've written a book about this, so Dave was a former police officer and he'd been in head-on collisions, accidents, everything, and he said that the surgeons had they'd done some work on his spine and he couldn't actually move because they did great work, but he couldn't move the head, neck or anything like that anymore and he was actually getting um, he was working as a mechanic and the fingers and the hands just didn't didn't work anymore as they should do and I thought that's quite strange. So they were given all this sort of diagnosis by the medical crowd and I always ask a lot of questions, open questions, and he also said to me now I need to have keyhole surgery done on my knee because there's no cartilage. And he said don't touch that because nobody can ever fix that. And I remember sitting there going oh, I love these challenges when people say that can't be done. And I'm thinking there's always a way. There's always, never, ever say nothing's impossible, because it's like Roger Bannister. He ran the four minute mile, I think 1952 in Helsinki, and everybody said that can't be done until somebody does it. And then everybody's doing it.
Sarah Jane Smith:So I have this man, dave, up in my bedroom and he, dave, started shaking, the body started shaking and I said is he okay? And this is what you and I were talking about before. How do you know who and what you're talking to? And the super conscious is coming through, because he started talking about himself in the third person and they started I call them they. They started saying to me because I went to sort of say look, he's my patient, is he, is he okay? Is he? Is he could have been having a fit. He was shaking, so, looking after him, they told me sit back down, he's fine.
Sarah Jane Smith:It was a different voice talking through this man. It was very authoritative, very firm, but protective of him as well. And I said what? What's going on? And I said he's been told that his spine has been fused together, he's broken all these vertebrae. And I said is that true? And the voice came back through this man saying no, it isn't true. It was the synapses, or the neurons in the brain. They weren't actually passing down through the arms and the legs and the body anymore, weren't actually passing down through the arms and the legs and the body anymore. So basically, that was why he was having a stiffness in his hands and I said what are you doing? I asked a lot of questions and they said we're rewiring the body starting in the brain.
Sarah Jane Smith:we're rewiring the body and he started becoming an expert on brain and synapses and all of this thing, the messages going all the way down to his feet. And then I said, well, you know, and I thought I can't believe what I'm seeing. The world needs to know about this. And then I said, well, you know his right knee could. Yes, yes, that's fine. And I said what are you doing? And they said, well, we're regrowing the cartilage in his knee. 10 minutes later, 10, 15 minutes later, they said he's fine, he'll be fine. And he woke up and he said I can't believe what's happened. I can't believe what you've just done. I said I didn't do anything. I'm the facilitator, I just asked questions. And he said to me, emailed me about six months later. He keeps in touch with me regularly. He said the knee's perfect, he's never needed surgery. And he said the hands, everything, the body is working perfectly. And I remember Michelle.
Sarah Jane Smith:The point is, I remember thinking, like I've just said, the world needs to know about this. I can't keep this a secret because you should never be sick. This is another question you and I were discussing beforehand. The body should never be sick. However, how do your thoughts create illness in the body? Okay, we create illness. And the great thing is, we create disease and we create illness because the body is giving you literal messages. It's telling you you know, the shoulders or the back is sore. Well, you've got the weight of the world on your shoulders. If somebody's got a problem with their spine, I say do you have enough? Have enough support? And they say I don't feel supported at all.
Sarah Jane Smith:I had a lady last night. She said I'm nearsighted, I I can't see far distances. And I said are you afraid of the future, what you're going to see? And she said well, yeah, okay, we're creating all of these subconsciously. And what dolores cannon used to say is if you've created those disease, common sense will tell you you can uncreate them too. You can heal yourself. Now, what quantum healing hypnosis is? You know, dolores actually she's the one that actually started bringing this to the alternative world, but also Carl Jung. He said he found the super conscious talking through people, working through them as well. Now, carl Jung was, just as far as I'm aware, exploring the mind, and what is the connection and you know what happened was he started coming through this very distinct voice it always sounds the same when they talk through the clients and he said he was so freaked out because he didn't know what it was and he wasn't expecting it that he never did hypnosis again because he was scared.
Sarah Jane Smith:Now, because of Dolores Cannon's explanations and her wonderful training, she explains correctly that this energy is a joy to work with. Even I feel it as well. I listen to people talking about their trauma and their lives for one, two, three, four could be five hours, michelle, because we need to get to know each other and establish a rapport. So I listen to these people talking for hours about their lives and going through everything that happened, and this helps me to understand, probably, where they're going to go Now. I never know.
Sarah Jane Smith:I don't actually take people. Let's go to your childhood, let's go. I don't know where to take them, but the force that we're working with, the higher self, the superconscious. It knows more about you than you know about yourself. It will take you to the most relevant place that the issue began, because we treat the cause of the issue. We don't just lie down and take everything away, even if you want to. I want to know why this happened to you, because I'm learning as well, and so what happens is it will take you to your childhood, or it will take you to a past life. It will take you to one or two or three past lives. Now, those past lives, I will always ask how are they relative to her life or his life today? They won't show you something like, oh well, she was living in the 1800s in London. Well, what is that going to do with her? Now? Nothing. It will always give you connection to those past lives and the current life that you're living now. And if people don't believe in past lives, that's fine. They're telling you a story about how those lives you know.
Sarah Jane Smith:Somebody says I don't want to be a leader, I don't want to talk because I'm not capable, I can't do it. They'll say well, you did it before. You were leading people in this completely different life, in this different era, showing you you've already done it. And people will say I can't start a business? Well, they'll show you a life where you did and you were very successful. You've done all this before and we bring those gifts and abilities into this life too. So they're showing you past lives.
Sarah Jane Smith:But also people say how do you know what's real? Okay, let me give you an example of how I know the past lives are real. I believe they are, because when somebody is going into a man or a woman in this other time, this other time and place, they identify completely with that character. They become that person. And when something emotional happens maybe there's a death of a loved one or something so joyous and beautiful happening they don't just cry, they sob from their soul. This isn't like you know oh, you know, I lost a baby and there's no reaction. No, they're sobbing from their soul. They're crying, and crying, and crying, and I think this is also that's proof that you know something is happening with these people. Everybody cries, everybody has this overwhelming amount of emotion and also I wonder if they're also releasing those people from those lives. They're releasing their trauma too. I've also found that people are releasing their ancestral trauma. I'll give you an example.
Sarah Jane Smith:Somebody might have said a lot of them say my mother treated me like this and my father treated me like that. And I say if they have children, how do you treat your children? And they say well, I would never treat them the way I was treated. And they're learning why. Because they know how painful it is if they say my mother was a narcissist, my father was controlling. Well, you don't do that to other people now, because you know you don't want to put people through that again. So we're actually healing ancestral trauma.
Sarah Jane Smith:And I say to people would you be open also to whether they're alive or dead, it doesn't matter. Would you be open to the possibility of forgiving? Send your mother forgiveness or whoever it is, because you know what. That was the best they could do. We send them love and forgiveness and I teach them how to do that and I say to them you don't need to say to their face I don't recommend doing that at all, michelle, I forgive you. I don't think that will go down well with a lot of people. You know you do it through your mind. You say a few things to them through your mind and also, if somebody has passed away and they're on the spirit side, we send them forgiveness too. And then we find that we are you're putting down the backpack and the baggage and everything.
Sarah Jane Smith:And also people in the sessions. I find they have guilt. They feel a lot of guilt or remorse or sadness. We find out where they're storing that in the body and why. And I say to them let it go, let it go, no matter. And they say but she did this to me. And men say she took my children and my money. And I say, but she did this to me. And men say she took my children and my money. And I say, but she's going to, you're going to kill yourself, you're going to have a heart attack or you're going to create something. Let it go. And so we do. We treat everybody with love and forgiveness, not sort of saying, oh my gosh, your ex-husband is, it sounds like a terrible man. That's not going to work, it's not going to help. And we find out.
Sarah Jane Smith:I say to people do you feel like you made a contract on the spirit side with your mother or your ex-husband or whatever? And there's always a pause and they always answer yes, I did 99% of the time. Okay, why did you make a contract? What did you make a contract to learn? And they'll say, well, he's teaching me patience and I tried to teach him spirituality or something like that. Did it work? And they'll usually say, as an empath the people I get, they're highly sensitive people, they're empaths They'll say, yeah, it worked for me, but not for him. And I say that's his karma, let it go. Let it go. You're here to offer your teaching and your help. And if they don't want it, that's fine, that's fine, let it go.
Sarah Jane Smith:And I find that the majority of people I get they're like me. They say they were very aware from an early age. They always say to me like me, I never fit in. I don't know about you, michelle, I never fit into this place. They try, try, even. They move country, they go places and they still don't fit in.
Sarah Jane Smith:And Dolores wrote a book called the Three Waves of Volunteers. I've just written a new book now called the New Wave of Volunteers, because under hypnosis, we find out that these people have volunteered to come here to help. Now, what they have in common is, like I just said, they never fit in. They're highly sensitive people, probably like yourself, like me too. They say we have a voracious appetite for knowledge and learning. You know, the place could almost be on fire and you'll say one more page, one more page, I'm onto something now. And we just never stop. And also we are watchers and observer. We love people watching, we're learning all the time.
Sarah Jane Smith:And I find that under hypnosis, these people have said oh, what was I thinking? I volunteered to come here. I volunteered to come here and help, because Dolores wrote after 1945, the earth was in trouble, world War II had finished and also we were using atomic power for all the wrong reasons. And up there somewhere they must've been looking down at us going. These kids are, they're going to blow themselves up. You know, I don't know what's going on, but we need help. There is like a little bit like Star Trek. There is a prime directive of non-interference. Now, who are they? I'm talking about being ETs whether you believe in them or not, it doesn't matter. Beings of consciousness, beings of light, everything.
Sarah Jane Smith:Now they heard the call, even people like us. We would have heard the call and we would have said, yes, we'll volunteer to come here and help. But they say on the spirit side, michelle, you have your little plans wrapped up in your little box with your little ribbon and you say I'm going to do this and I'm going to change the world. And I say I will too. We high five each other, probably, and we're born. The problem is we don't remember why we've come here. And if we did remember, it probably wouldn't be a test. You know, they say life is a school, this earth is a school of learning, and we're going through all these tests. But anyway, they say that people like all of us, probably we heard the call. Now people say where was I when I heard the call? Everybody originates from source, from.
Sarah Jane Smith:God from source, whatever you want to call it. We all come from there. But my question is I ask different questions when were we, where was I when I heard the call? And people say they had no body, they were being a consciousness, they were on another planet. They say I'm blue, I'm green, I'm an ET. And they say I heard the call. And I say why did you come? And they say because we love the humans, we love this planet and we came here to help. And I found under hypnosis. I've had between 1500 and 1600 people, michelle. They all say the same thing. They say I came here to volunteer to help people.
Sarah Jane Smith:Now, everybody's come here with different experiences. Like I already said, they don't fit in. They're highly sensitive people, but we all have a different point of attention. You have your point of attention, your experiences, you have your own gifts and abilities and you're helping people with your work and just being you.
Sarah Jane Smith:Sometimes people say what do I need to do to change the world? And the answer is just be yourself. It's your energy, it's beautiful and you will affect everybody everywhere you go. But then other people they say, well, you need to do, and they go. I don't want to do public speaking a bit like me. You need to go on stage, you need to do public speaking, you need to do interviews, you need to write books, and so we're all told they're told in the session this is what you're going to need to do. And so why do people come to me? You know, we were talking about this earlier. They're at a junction or crossroads in their life and they're thinking do I go this way, do I go that way? Where do I go? And the majority of people, the number one question I'm asked is why am I here?
Sarah Jane Smith:Why did I come here? You know this place, wherever we've come from or volunteered to come from, this is a heavy, heavy place for us. It's a heavy planet. We don't understand the clients I get. They don't understand war, hatred, screaming, arguing and violence. We never get used to it as highly sensitive people, and so we're here to do anything we can to help people. And you know why are the answers coming now? All of the answers are coming out in the session now about who we are and what we're doing.
Sarah Jane Smith:I think it's the right time. I think this is, this is I don't know what you think. It's an amazing time to be alive. And there's been so much fear. There's been so much fear. Is there going to be a one world government? I ask for advice for the clients. I say can you give Michelle a little bit of advice, last minute advice? And they say, yeah, be yourself, do what you're you know, speak your mind, speak your truth. And I say, do you have any advice for humanity? And they say there's not going to be a one world government. This isn't going to happen. Their plan isn't going to win, but you need to fight back even harder than ever. We know we're going to win because we're more powerful, but we also need.
Sarah Jane Smith:I explain it like this the answers are very simple, all the answers in the session. They're very simple, yet genius. And I say to people Michelle, look, you and I could sit here for 10 years and psychoanalyze each other, you know, for all of this amount of time, but we won't come up with the answers that they tell us in the session, because the answers are always simple. They're staring you in the face, but they're also genius as well, and that's why I find we do the session. That's the great thing about it, because you get the answers like that and I always say to people I record all of the hypnosis part.
Sarah Jane Smith:I don't record anything they say before the session. That's always private and confidential and it's a bit like Dolores said. She said it's a bit like your mother confessor, and they're coming to you and they're saying to me maybe I killed somebody, maybe I did this, I did that, and they're telling me stuff that they've never, ever told anybody before, because they need to say things out loud, they need to, people need to hear themselves talking, and they're unraveling things as they go and realizing, you know, that the answers were always inside them. Anyway, we have all the answers. Anyway, you know that we're never supposed to be ill, but it's remembering why, why are we here and who we truly are. Because I find, once you know who you are, everything else starts falling into place, if that makes sense right, yeah, a hundred percent.
Dr. Michele Burklund:And and what? What I see a lot with patients is, let's say, they had, like, a childhood trauma, or they have this belief system about themselves or it could be, you know, related to their mother or their grandfather or something like that and they see it, but they still can't release it, right? Or they can go to therapy and talk about it, but it's still in their subconscious, it's in their belief system. And the biggest question is, right, how can they release it from their body and from their mind long-term? And that's where I think hypnosis is so powerful, right?
Dr. Michele Burklund:Because they can go into that place and they can finally release it, rather than speaking about it again and again and seeing it, but taking that out and permanently removing it too, and that's where there are differences.
Sarah Jane Smith:I totally agree with you, michelle, and I don't know what you think about the ego, the left brain. Now, the majority of my people I get okay, because I say what is your job? And when they say doctor, lawyer, surgeon, the left brain, okay, they're trained to be left brain, not like you.
Sarah Jane Smith:They don't ask questions like you do. You're, you're, you're absolutely brilliant and I know that you're very spiritual, you're brilliant at what you do. But a lot of teachers, you know, I get military, sas, cia, you, you name it. Okay, they're trained to be left brain. And when I get SAS men, I'm like we're going to have fun with this guy because they're not going to let go. And I just say let go, you're wasting time, there's nothing, you know, there's nothing to fear, but you can see them clinging on to dear life.
Sarah Jane Smith:Another question that you brilliantly asked as well is why do we use hypnosis? Ok, that's simple. Let me just make it quite simple for people. You're turning down the left brain during hypnosis. Okay, that's simple. Let me just make it quite simple for people. You're turning down the left brain during hypnosis. It's not just lying down and talking on a sofa with a psychotherapist. No, we're turning down the chatter, that I call it the matrix mind, and we're turning down the left brain enough, because we need the speech, we need them. So it's a talking therapy. So we need them to talk and talk and talk and continue talking. And because we keep them continuously talking, you're putting yourself. I say I don't put you into anything, I don't hypnotize you. You're doing it to yourself and they're bringing themselves down. They're bringing because you asked a brilliant question about theta as well. They're bringing themselves into this state of theta.
Sarah Jane Smith:What is theta? It's very, very to describe. It's the state that you go into before you fall asleep. Most people aren't aware or cognizant that they're seeing the images and the pictures and the symbols. That's all it is before you go into deep sleep, which is called delta. You also you're in theta again before you wake up and you remember. I remember the dream and I was kissing somebody and it was great, and then it starts to just disappear and then you think I can't remember it anymore. That's theta. Theta is absolutely normal and you're going into it every night and every morning and people say can I die under hypnosis?
Sarah Jane Smith:And I say well, do you die before you wake up and before you fall asleep? No, clearly you don't. It's safe. Now it. Also you're always in control because I get all. I call them affection, call them the controllers, but you're always in control. You can get up anytime you want. You will be very awake and aware and conscious. You know. But I say to people why are you trying to control the session? If you went to a masseuse, would you say do it like this, oh hell, I'll do it myself. I say no, let go, relax. And I say to people allow and surrender, and it will happen. And it's a great way for people that like to control everything to learn to just let go and just have faith. And there is always a force, a universal force or an energy looking after you and we. They feel it in their body and I think one of the main things of the session, one of the main goals that we have, is for them to feel how it is to connect with their higher self or super conscious.
Sarah Jane Smith:They actually really feel very conscious of that and it's great because I say to them look, I'll help you in just one session, in just one session. You don't need to depend on me or anybody else anymore. I'll always be here to answer your emails. If you need any help, I'll be here for you, but you don't need another session. You need just one session, because they're showing you, they giving you all the answers, they're giving you everything you need in that session. That's why.
Sarah Jane Smith:That's why they call people reiki masters or, in my case, a quantum hypnosis master, because you help them in just one session, you know. So if we were trying to fool people or make money whatever, why would we say that you don't need anymore, you only need to see me once? And I say to people go over the recording over and over again, because it has its own electromagnetic frequency, just for you. I had a man I'll give you a couple of examples as well. I had a man that lives in Miami and he said to me I have one week left to live. Why? Because I don't want to live anymore. My life is so terrible, it's awful and I'm just going to drink myself to death. And he said after one session he never drank again. He had the answers. He said no, no, and he didn't tell me. But he said I also want to make contact with ETs or with something with a collective consciousness. Said I also want to make contact with ETs or with something with a collective consciousness.
Sarah Jane Smith:Now he said to me and I saw him under hypnosis. I said what are you doing now? And his eyes and his eyelashes were flickering like this at a rate. That is not humanly possible. Michelle, you know this as well. You've studied this. It's not humanly possible to do various movements with the eyes and flickering and the body and stuff. And he said also he said he knew it was real because both of his parents are eye surgeons. He said that isn't humanly possible and so he was going to drink himself to death.
Sarah Jane Smith:And after that session he said life was just, he had all the answers, he got on with them and he said he believes. He believes that he is connected to something much bigger than himself. So he invited me over to Florida to meet his wife and his children and he said to me I was in the boardroom with them, we were talking about marketing and stuff he's helping me with at the moment. And he said, um, I don't need another session, I don't need it ever again, don't need to come back to you. And I thought, well, that's my job done if that makes sense.
Dr. Michele Burklund:Yeah, no they. I mean. They always say like the best doctor has no patients, right it's, it's the same, it's the same thing when you really heal people and you teach them to be, you know, well on their own and you give them those tools and you can clear it out. I mean, that's that's the best way.
Sarah Jane Smith:Yes, yeah, yeah yeah, because, because we want to move forward as a humanity, we, we, we want to move forward and we want to go to the next level, don't we, you know? I mean, I think the Rockefellers, they, they were sort of saying in the early 1900s, is that right, michelle? They were saying, oh, look, know, anything alternative is their quacks Can't do homeopathy and you can't do Reiki. You can, that's, you know, it's only medicine. It's only, it's only pharmaceutical medicine. But I wonder, what have we learned in the last four years? Ok, they're all. There was a deadly virus and it was going to kill everybody. But what does a virus mean? You know better than me, michelle. It means a toxin or a poison. The cell is, is poisoned, you know. But it's like. You know, a friend of mine wrote a really good book called what really makes you ill, and they busted all the virus myth and they said, for example, if I was drunk and I came in and hugged you, would I make you drunk? Of course not.
Sarah Jane Smith:It's a bit like a virus. I can't can't give you a virus or anything like that. I don't know how you feel about that, but in the last four years how little we knew about viruses and the contagion myth and everything you know but we. But we learned that a lot of this is a lot of the. You know how the doctors were trained and the surgeons, and so we need to open our minds again to understand that we are all self healing you know Right, and I mean I think I think the mindset during that time.
Dr. Michele Burklund:you know the nocebo effect is so powerful in that that, can you know, be explained in double-blind, placebo-controlled studies and everything else the same way as the placebo and that can affect 30% of the outcome of a study. So I mean there's so many variables that go in there. But I think mindset throughout that whole time and how deeply it was fear based and you know, if a doctor says you're going to die in three months, a lot of people will, even if they don't have the disease, which is, you know, it's crazy.
Dr. Michele Burklund:So I think, yeah, there was. There was a lot of things going on there and mindset had a huge, huge component during that time.
Sarah Jane Smith:They were using a fear campaign and it was always on the bbc and cnn. I said to people you know, you won't have any fear, there won't be a virus if you switch your tv off. Now I I was chatting to you beforehand and I remember, in the middle of lockdown, I was just doing the dishes and stuff. I wasn't really working which I wasn't really doing anything to you know, which which I feel ashamed of to help anything or anybody, but I was just doing the dishes and stuff. I wasn't really working which I wasn't really doing anything to, you know, which which I feel ashamed of to help anything or anybody, but I was just doing my own thing. I was looking after the kids. We were going out, running and playgrounds. We were the only one in the village actually going out. I saw two army helicopters over us. They were probably thinking look those crazy people down there. We didn't do downs, we didn't do the face nappies, we didn't do vaccines, nothing. We just went on and lived our lives. But, um, I remember hearing this little voice in my mind saying contact David Icke, middle of lockdown, and I said what will I say? And there was no answer and I took the laptop and I scrolled down to the very end and it said advertise with us. And I thought that's it. But everybody said to me, michelle, everybody said you're crazy, they're going to target you, we don't know if you're going to be locked down, locked up with your children, and they're going to force vaccinate you, but you're putting your head above the parapet. We didn't know. And sometimes it's taking risks like that because I wanted to help people like you, and like you do is what you want to help people too. And I remember thinking I'm not doing anything to help anybody. So surely taking a risk like that, possibly to my life or my family, it's worth it, because I need to do something. I was aware that people were suffering mentally, suffering physically, during these lockdowns and I said, no, I need to reach out. I just knew, and so I sort of risked everything my career, my name, everything going on. David Icke Best decision I ever made, because it only got me more clients and more work.
Sarah Jane Smith:And, like I said in the beginning, michelle, I believe these are all volunteers. They're all here to help people and I've helped. I hope I've helped between 15 and 1600 people in the last few years and they've given me feedback, saying they're also affecting everybody, that they come into contact too, and now they all know why they're here. They've got their purpose and everything and they have no fear. Sure, they have challenges, but it's different challenges and they're all. It's like I they have challenges, but it's different challenges and they're all. It's like I say to people it's like they've got their car MOT or their service. They've got their body and their life MOT or service done. They know exactly where they're going and what they're doing and we're creating a network. It's almost like we're building a big army, a spiritual army, you know. And the future I'm always told the future is absolutely wonderful for us. So we need to kick back even harder. Why not?
Dr. Michele Burklund:Yeah, and I think that's such an important thing too is to have everybody have that vision of the future. And you know, and today too, how beautiful it is, no matter what the situation, or during all those crazy years too, like how much and took advantage of that time a lot.
Dr. Michele Burklund:I always thought, like you know, if monks could go live in a cave for years on end and take advantage of that. I'm going to go and go in nature and take advantage of it, so I think everything can really be beautiful. And having people see that and and then find you during that time too and and go deeper into themselves and yeah, taking advantage of that time, yeah, I learn I've learned so much they don't just learn from me and I like to teach people.
Sarah Jane Smith:I like to say that this is what we're going to do and this is how it works and teach people you know, as we're talking.
Sarah Jane Smith:But I have to say, michelle, I learn a lot from the clients myself too, because they all have their unique individual stories and they've had their battles and, you know, it's almost like we sit and we laugh together and we cry together and it's amazing how much I've learned. You know, I've even had people this was a mind-blowing story, I need to tell you you. I had a surgeon called Melanie, and she's a heart surgeon in New York now, very left brain, but she was really trying to embrace her spirituality and she said look, I did this job to help people to truth. She loves people. And she said I want to do a great job, but where do I go from here, you know?
Sarah Jane Smith:And anyway, I had her under hypnosis and she was crying and crying. She said this isn't real. I'm just speaking to myself, because you feel like you're making it all up. There was a pause in the. There was a couple of seconds silence, which you know it's all right to have, just a few seconds. Then I keep them talking again. But when I was transcribing the tape later on, I heard something which I was not prepared for, because when Melanie was saying I'm not, this isn't true, this isn't, I'm talking to myself. It's not real.
Sarah Jane Smith:A voice came on the tape and I still have the voice, I can send it to you and it said it was whispering. And it said it's okay, we're here for you, we'll help you, you're not alone. And I remember thinking what's going on? There's voices it's like you know the voice phenomenon. That was starting to happen in my tapes as well and I recorded and I'm thinking where is this coming from as well. So it isn't just only the mind over matter, it's actual voices coming on the tape saying no, no, no, we're here to help you, you're not alone. And I'm thinking what's going on. And this lady not only that. She was told you know, because of your cycle you're going to have to have a hysterectomy. And I said I don't think you should, but I'm not allowed to say anything for legal reasons. And she said to me she didn't have her monthly cycle for 12 years. She rang me and she said nine o'clock the next morning it came back. No hysterectomy needed. So everything was on blocks.
Sarah Jane Smith:There was one woman, another attorney. She wanted to do the millionaire's mindset. Now she was a practicing attorney, but she was also selling artwork. She was in the you know the art world. And she said for the last year in the US she had a couple saying you sold me this and I'm not happy and we're going to sue you. So she said to me we didn't work on that problem at all of her being sued. We worked on different things. But they said she said I'm going to lose my home and I'm going to lose everything and then I'm going to lose my marriage.
Sarah Jane Smith:And she was catastrophizing, catastrophizing everything. And basically what happened was she phoned me about nine o'clock the next morning, she'll say. She said you never guess what. They've dropped the case against me. They've dropped the case and I said why? And she said we don't know, but for no reason. And we seem to be. They seem to be unblocking energetic blocks. You know things, things that are really affecting you for no reason. But sometimes I feel in the session, when you let it go, stuff starts happening. And then she said to me not only that, she left a review, she said she made two very important sales while she was under, doing nothing, just floating out in space enjoying herself. She was making money and it's like how does that work? I don't know. But clearly they you know what you need and sometimes they're saying that lesson is over, you've learned that lesson, that you're going to be sued and you're going to be on it. You know, and you're catastrophizing as, criticizing everything and it's like um, and all of a sudden the blocks are gone, you know. So, yeah, right, yeah, like amazing things.
Sarah Jane Smith:That another man said to me. He came and he said look, the doctors say my heart is only working at 20 percent. So he was told he was in the session. Look, it doesn't have to be the higher self healing you. It could be any being of consciousness, being of light. We don't mind who it is, as long as they're being helped.
Sarah Jane Smith:Some people have been on ships and they're being helped by reptilians and they're not liking that very much. They're scared and I say it doesn't matter, this is the nearest person we're going to get their biological. You know, they're amazing their knowledge on biology. Let them heal you. Their body was healed. And this other man that said his heart was only functioning at 20 percent, he said he was being healed by grays and ets and I said let them do it, let them do it. And two months later he went back to the surgeon and they took a complete scan of the heart and they said it's unbelievable, it's working at 100 percent. It must have been the. It must have been the pills that you were taking. He said I stopped taking them a year ago. And they said it wasn't Sarah, it wasn't that session.
Sarah Jane Smith:It's a miracle, but it wasn't her, so they couldn't believe that. One session of hypnotherapy and even the doctors and surgeons said it's a miracle, it's working at 100. So that is the power of your mind connecting with something higher. So it's amazing, yeah yeah, and it's.
Dr. Michele Burklund:I mean it's. It's always like the ultimate paradox too, like when you want something so bad, or you push it right, you push it away, and once you release it and you see why you were holding that on, everything is in alignment. You know whether?
Dr. Michele Burklund:it's like a woman desperately trying to get pregnant, obsessed with those ideas. And once it's released, in the same way, you know, and she's at peace, with exactly everything in the blocks removed, everything occurs and it's. It's amazing we can do that with hypnotherapy too. I know for me. I went to university for 14 years and so I have this analytical side here, this spin it's, it's balancing that and removing that when I need to, and yeah, and I feel like I went for too long, and it's like a whole battle trying to remove a lot of that thinking and that programming and finding the balance between the two and I think, yeah, yeah, but that was meant to be that you did these, the amazing that you did for 10 years.
Sarah Jane Smith:But what you'll find it wasn't a waste of time, because what you'll find is everything. It's like dot connecting everything. Everything you've done, michelle has value.
Sarah Jane Smith:Everything you've done, definitely definitely picking up on oh, I learned this and I learned that. So we need people like you. It isn't the sarah smith show, I always make jokes about that. No, we need. Do we need doctors? Yes, we do. The ones that question like you do we need surgeons? Yes, of course you do. What was the question? Do we need reiki homeopathy?
Sarah Jane Smith:Me, look, it's all of us together, it's not just me and it's not just you. Exactly, all of us, vax on, vax, whatever, come over to the same side and unify. We all need each other, you know, and we should me and the medical crew and everything be fighting? No, we should not be fighting. We're all on the same team, coming together. That's really, really, really important, because we have the one goal, or we should have the one goal that's helping people, and people will decide, yes, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Sarah Jane Smith:And and I think maybe we needed the last four years for people to truly, you know, wipe the scales from their eyes and really see what's going on. Like you said, michelle, that's that's brilliant the way you put it you trust yourself. Forget about that. Trust yourself. Forget about that. Trust yourself. We all had an intuition and a gut feeling and everything. We will get through this together. But I always said when I advertised on David Icke and other places and do interviews, let the people decide. They can choose me or they can say we don't like her, this isn't for us, and then choose something or somebody else.
Dr. Michele Burklund:But you should be questioning everything right and all of us should be questioning. And I I get so many patients too that come in and say, you know, like the doctor said, statistically this is going to happen in my illness or this, and they hold on to it so deep and they own that, and then it goes into their body rather than listening to themselves and saying does this, is this right for me, you know? And and this is where I love hypnotherapy so much, and recommending it to my patients is to release all of those things, cause they always ask me to I'll be like, okay, well, we can see that there's an association here or there's a block here, and then the next part is how do we get rid of it? And so, yeah, it's a very powerful.
Sarah Jane Smith:Yeah, and we found that we all know now that up until now, they've been treating, you know, the big pharma, the doctors, they've been treating the symptoms and it's like, well, what was the cause? I say to people, somebody says, oh, I went in for this operation. And I say, okay, what caused that in the first place? And they say we don't know, we're just, we're just going to have the symptoms.
Sarah Jane Smith:okay, well, something else is going to happen to you now something else is probably going to happen to your body, because the body is giving you messages. It's you hello, we're trying to get through to you. And I remember Dolores saying but why do you need to use pain when you're being given the message to your body? And they said because you're not going to ignore pain, now you're going to have to address whatever you're going through and they have very literal, literal meanings.
Sarah Jane Smith:You know, I used to have problems with my voice and my vocal cord and they say well, what? What truth are you not speaking? It's giving you literal messages. You know, the hips are moving you forward in life, you know.
Dr. Michele Burklund:So that's what we need to pay attention to and we need to find the answers to move forward and so do people come to you for specific, like medical conditions Do I know they come in general or they want answers or routes to figure out where they're going in life and and what's going on, but do they come from like specific conditions or different things as well? Everything?
Sarah Jane Smith:everything, you know. People say I've got cancer, I've got problems with my lungs. And we, I say to the higher self, the superconscious, I say, well, when we get to a certain point in the session, I say can you do a full body scan, top of the head, down the body to the tip of the toes? And then they'll say, oh, her kidney isn't working. They'll find out. So suddenly people are you, you know, qualified surgeons in their own session. They're saying yes, yes, yes. And I say to the, the force that we're working with through the client, I say how can you help? Can you help them? And I said, but why is it happened? And they'll say they'll tell the client the reason. And then they'll all say, well, can you help them? And they'll say, yes, we're going to put energy in the body, energy, energy in that organ. They'll use lights, they'll use energy. It's always natural, you know, and I actually sometimes think I can see these lights coming down into the body. You know, I actually see people leaving their body too, which is quite interesting.
Sarah Jane Smith:Also, people have been saying to me lately there's another thing, another phenomenon that started happening the last almost 15 clients in a row, they started seeing the same city, looking the same way, with the same color as the same path going up to, and looked a little bit like the Wizard of Oz, and they started seeing a particular color of a gem. And when I said, what does that mean, what is all this for? They told me the same thing. Let's say, for example, they said that's for love, the meaning is love, and they're all saying the same thing, in the same way, with the same words, and I'm thinking how can almost 15 people in a row be seeing the same thing? Because it's the same force coming through all of them. And when I see 15 people in a row saying the same things in the same way, with the same words, the same meaning, for me that's evidence, that's empirical evidence, and I'm wondering how many more are going to see the same thing too. So I feel, like Dolores was, that I'm being given a big jigsaw and it's almost like each client are a piece of the jigsaw and they are.
Sarah Jane Smith:Not only is it specific answers and healing for them, but they're giving me messages to to put in another book, and I have material now for probably three books. There's so much. But they're telling me that this is, this is the future we're going to have, and they're all seeing it in the same way. I just don't want to let the cat out of the bag too much, because I want to see how many more are seeing the same thing. And they're telling me that this particular gem and color and stone is very important for what we're doing, the answers and the healing and and the work. So, um, how can they all be seeing and saying the same thing? It's, it's it. It blows my mind as well, and I have it all on the recordings as well as proof. Yeah, so so it blows their mind too, because everybody wakes up and says I made that all up. And I say, yeah, you and the other 15 made it all up, yeah yeah, so it's not possible hard to argue it's it.
Sarah Jane Smith:Yeah, it's not possible. So, um, the things that I'm, the common denominator and all with all of this work, with all of this information, and it's just blowing my mind and I sit and I smile and I go, we're on to something here. It's just proving to me that this is all real and it is all really happening.
Dr. Michele Burklund:Yeah, yeah, amazing yeah, you really do some powerful work they say.
Sarah Jane Smith:They say it isn't really me doing it. I think I always point up. I say it's them. Okay, I don't give anybody advice or answers. I'll give you anecdotal stories about myself, but you're not here to get advice from me. I can'll give you anecdotal stories about myself, but you're not here to get advice from me. I can't tell you what they're going to tell you. It's mind blowing. You know, I could never come up with that it blows my mind when I hear it too.
Sarah Jane Smith:But they've said that they will only work with specific people. They know your intention. They know my intention towards you. They know that I'm not trying to do this for fame or fortune or success, anything of that. I'm generally genuinely trying to help people. So they will work with you know, hopefully people like me, because they know I really, really, really love all the clients and the people I work with and I really want a result for them, almost more than they wanted, and I will get a result. I will keep working for them all day long.
Sarah Jane Smith:And I say to people I'm not like other professionals. I cannot finish that session in three to four hours. I can't. It might take me eight or nine or 10 hours. That's because people need to talk a lot about their life. But I say to people I'll offer you unlimited hours on the day of the session because I focus only on one client a day. That's how I work and that's how my sessions, all of them, are a success. All of them work.
Sarah Jane Smith:And people say, well, I go under. I never did before. Yes, everybody goes. Why? Because you're putting yourself under. I see people, their eyes are beginning to go and I say because you're putting yourself under. I see people, their eyes are beginning to go and I say you're putting yourself under and they say, yeah, I'm ready to lie down if I, if I do them over zoom, if I have a lot of clients in America, australia, you know there's a woman I'm flying over from Taiwan next week, like 20 hours, something like that. She's flying in. So for people it is since they've seen me on David Icke it is extremely important and they want to come and physically see me face to face as well.
Sarah Jane Smith:And I always joke with people because the people I meet from you know that watch David Icke. They're highly conscious, highly intelligent people and I always say, look, I wouldn't have lasted three days on David Icke, nevermind three years, because the feedback and the reviews and everything I'm getting is it's mind blowing and it's life changing and I'm very humbled and grateful to people for that. But the other thing is I had almost 180. I was talking to Dr Ryan Cole the other day. He's an amazing doctor and somebody said he's got 100 and you've only got 80 and I said, no, I had 180 google reviews but they've taken down 100 of my reviews.
Sarah Jane Smith:Why? Because some of the reviews have been by doctors and surgeons and they've said I'm a doctor and this is mind-blowing, I'm a surgeon, it's changed my life forever and boom, it's gone. It's gone and google said it isn't us, it's gone, it's gone. And Google said it isn't us, it's the algorithm, it's AI. So why are they taking down hundreds of my reviews? I must be doing something right, but I copy and paste them anyway and I keep them, so that doesn't bother me. I just smile and I think, well, whatever I'm doing is threatening somebody somewhere. So I think it's a good sign. If you're not annoying somebody somewhere, then you're doing something wrong.
Dr. Michele Burklund:Right, right. Yeah, I think when you have, when you polarize and you get people to fill a certain way, then you initiate that response to and and yeah, that means that something's moving and and yeah, that means that something's moving, something's changing.
Sarah Jane Smith:Yeah, we're upsetting somebody somewhere, but I I'm not naive, michelle, I knew when I first started advertising on david, like I I was. I I thought to myself the majority of people are gonna, hopefully they'll like it and they'll want it, but you'll always get the naysayers saying she's lying, she's, you know, it's not true, it's whatever. And I still get like the, the hit pieces written saying no no, no, no, no.
Sarah Jane Smith:You can't help people in one session. No, you can't help people in one session, but I do. So there you go, you know. How can you say that you know everything? I don't think I know everything you know. Socrates says wisdom is knowing how little we know. I don't know everything. I don't think I know everything you know. Socrates says wisdom is knowing how little we know. I don't know everything. I'm learning every day, you know. But the thing is I don't give up on people. I work with them for the whole day till I get a result. That's the, that's the best I can do. I bring my A game to every single session, just like you do.
Dr. Michele Burklund:And and you see people around the world like through Zoom. So how you and I are seeing each other today. You can do sessions and you can go hours and hours working with them this way as well.
Sarah Jane Smith:Oh, yeah, I mean, I get up. I used to do shift work. Anyway, I'll get up at five in the morning. If it's somebody in Australia, because of the difference in time zones, I get up. I have people in Alaska and Canada and USA. I only deal with one person a day. So I say, yeah, I'll work with you till you know a maximum one in the morning. Why? Because I need to be fresh, I need to be focused, I don't want to work too late, but I'll get up early in the morning and I will adjust to that person's time zone, no problem.
Sarah Jane Smith:Whereas I know other professionals. They say it's 11am, london time or nothing. I don't want to do that because I don't want to say to people it's 2am, your time. I think they're going to fall asleep, they're going to be too tired. So I say, well, why don't we compromise? It's this time my zone and it's that time your zone. And yeah, that's perfect for both of us. So I will do anytime people want. I used to joke anyone anywhere. Anytime, I will help you, no problem. Yeah, that's my modus operandi. I'm here to help. I won't say no to anybody, you know.
Dr. Michele Burklund:Which is great too. Yeah, Because I'm sure a lot of people need help and there's a lot of tough cases and things that maybe other hypnotherapists wouldn't want to take on. So I think and just holding your energy all day for one person is a beautiful thing.
Sarah Jane Smith:Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I get it's almost like the splashback of this the energy and the joy and the happiness. So why wouldn't I go there? I'm the luckiest person in the world with the best job because it's actually impacting me too. I get the happiness and the joy and the love and just seeing those people wake up and look like different people and I always think they look like they're about 10 or 20 years younger as well. They look refreshed and awake and they're happy. They've got the answers.
Dr. Michele Burklund:Yeah, no, I think that's great and I think, yeah, there's. So hypnosis is endless of what it can do, like for me. It's helped me in so many different ways of removing different beliefs and I can target it in and figure out what, what I need to have removed, and I can either try it through meditation and different practices. But if I can't remove it or if it's something very clear, I think like especially for me, hypnosis has done wonders for for things like that as well. So I'm I'm so thankful you can come on today and and talk to us about it.
Sarah Jane Smith:Oh, I'm very grateful to meet you too. Yeah, finally, because you, you have a wonderful story. I was reading your bio and it's absolutely. It's beautiful, it's amazing. You're a wonderful human being. I'm very grateful for you too.
Dr. Michele Burklund:Thank you, Well, thank you for coming on today. So much, Sarah, and we'll be sure to put all of your information posted on my website and the podcast too, so they can find you and and everybody can help remove their own blockages and and get closer to themselves as well.
Sarah Jane Smith:Absolutely yeah, looking forward to hearing from everybody.
Dr. Michele Burklund:Okay, thank you so much.
