UNTOLD MEDICINE
Come with me on a journey to the unexplored side of medicine where we speak with rebel doctors, radical herbalists, unorthodox healers, and patients who have healed themselves. Explore the intersection between science & spirituality and discover the power within you. Hosted by Dr. Michele Burklund
UNTOLD MEDICINE
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt: Blending Ancient Wisdom with Modern Healing for Chronic Illness Mastery
Discover the groundbreaking ways of tackling chronic illness with Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt, who interweaves his extensive knowledge from Germany and India with advanced healing practices.
In this episode, Dr. Klinghardt unveils his holistic and integrative approach, which has transformed the lives of many struggling with complex conditions like Lyme disease and autism. His journey of innovation didn't halt with the pandemic; instead, he adapted his methods to conquer the new health challenges it posed, offering a beacon of hope to those affected by post-COVID complications.
Embark on an exploration of healing that transcends conventional medicine with Dr. Klinghardt’s Five Levels of Healing. This profound framework considers everything from physical afflictions to ancestral traumas, advocating for a treatment that heals the entire being. As we navigate through his philosophy, the significance of Autonomic Response Testing is brought into the spotlight, a tool that challenges the norm of quick, test-based diagnostics and paves the way for personalized care. Dr. Klinghardt’s dedication to this art is evident as he trains fellow practitioners at the Sophia Health Institute, ensuring that these life-changing practices spread far and wide.
In an age where our environment constantly bombards us with electromagnetic fields, Dr. Klinghardt arms us with strategies to protect our health. We discuss practical steps, from turning off Wi-Fi routers to considering protective clothing, to shield ourselves from these invisible threats. Moreover, Dr. Klinghardt shares natural remedies like rosemary and propolis tinctures that serve as a formidable defense against Wi-Fi radiation. Tune in to understand how to navigate a digitally dominated world without compromising your well-being, guided by an expert who's leading the charge in integrative and environmental health.
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Welcome to the podcast Medicine Untold and come with me on a journey to the unexplored side of medicine, where we speak with rebel doctors, radical herbalists, unorthodox healers and patients who have healed themselves. Explore the intersection between science and spirituality and discover the power within you. I'm your host, Dr. Michele Burklund, licensed naturopathic doctor, alchemist and and practicing physician.
Dr. Michele Burklund:So welcome everyone. Today we have Dr Klinghardt and I'm so excited to have him. So welcome Dr
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:Good morning Michelle.
Dr. Michele Burklund:So Dr Dietrich , MD, PhD, is a world-renowned medical physician who early in his career became interested in the sequelae of chronic toxicity, especially lead, mercury, environmental pollutants and electromagnetic fields, and their correlation to chronic illness. Dr is internationally recognized for his biological medicine approaches and successful treatments of neurological illness, chronic pain, autism, Lyme disease and techniques to combine non-surgical orthopedic medicine with immunology, endocrinology, toxicology and neuro therapy. He is the founder and medical director of the Sophia Health Institute near Seattle in the United States, as well as the founder and chair of the Institute of Neurobiology in Germany. Dr has authored groundbreaking textbooks and publications and created autonomic response testing and the five levels of healing. Oh, that's quite impressive.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:It was pretty good.
Dr. Michele Burklund:So kind of just start, can you tell us a little bit about your background and why you focus on chronic illness in your practice today?
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:Yeah.
Dr. Michele Burklund:I mean, it's pretty simple. I mean.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:I grew up in Germany and went to medical school there, and at the time there was still a time before the big separation between integrative medicine or alternative medicine and conventional medicine. It was one thing. So we still had courses in herbal medicine, we had obligatory courses in homeopathy and acupuncture, and so when we graduated we were actually tested on those subjects. So we had to have a good working knowledge of all that. And then, really, like you know, yeah, after medical school I did my residency, and during the residency I had the chance at the same time study psychology and got a degree in that also, and then worked on my PhD, which was a major, major work that took three years on how the autonomic nervous system the vascular system and the immune system are correlated with each other, so that was sort of my starting
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:point. And then I worked in India for three years, which was some of my internship in medicine I actually did in a hospital in India. And then I got in touch, you know, with Dr Basant Laj, who was down the road, our little Ayurvedic doctor, who later on we moved to America and he became famous here. But so they had a pretty good, pretty good working knowledge of Ayurvedic medicine. And then, you know, coming over here I was kind of shocked that acupuncture, at least at the time in the early 80s, was hardly known, and homeopathy, even though it has a huge history in America, was virtually murdered, you know, by the medical history that we all know. And so I sort of brought some of my German upbringing and what I've experienced over here and then put those things together.
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Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:I have to say, like in a very decisive six months in England with James Suriak, who was sort of the inventor of orthopedic medicine that's a non-surgical way of treating orthopedic conditions, which largely involved prolotherapy and different injection techniques. And then when I came over here I was first very, very much involved with prolotherapy and treating orthopedic conditions and, you know, whenever that was successful with the patient, the same patient thought I was special and brought their mother with cancer and brought their children with autism, and so that sort of you know took a natural evolution and becoming sort of the receiving basket for patients that didn't find help elsewhere and that happens to be mostly people with chronic illness. And then, sort of very quickly by the end of the 80s I was already pretty knowledgeable about Lyme disease and the first treatments you know sort of that were available and explored that quite deeply.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:And so I think sort of by the mid 90s had already developed alternative biological approaches to treat Lyme disease, which made me popular in some circles and very unpopular in other circles. And that's why I sometimes say I'm the last standing natural path in Seattle because the whole Bastille University and all the students have gone the way, treating it with antibiotics and with heart medical drugs. Whereas, even though I have prescription pad available. I went the other way, treating things differently, and since that one, the long one was far more effective.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:I sort of became almost like the victim of all the chronic patients in the US that found, many of whom found their way to me, and so it kind of was the natural evolution of all that sort of, and it wasn't that I had a particular passion for chronic illness, it just ended up being that way.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:And then you know we're doing the COVID years. It kind of pretty much fortified my knowledge from my opinions about using the prior knowledge to deal with the situation, which helped us really guide a lot of people through the crisis without ending up on the respirator and or in the coffin. And so we've. And so now, post COVID, you know we're we're facing the issue that people have a flare up of other chronic illnesses and so basically learned, any chronic illness we need to treat now or cancer or autoimmune disease we have to include the treatment of COVID with it, and that has worked out really well.
Dr. Michele Burklund:Right, that's a pretty impressive background with a lot of different variables that you can combine really during this time and it's interesting I was listening to your background in a different video and you were discussing kind of your upbringing exposed to Lyme disease kind of in a certain region, and how so many people had it, and so it was seemed like all these different things came into your life path to definitely have you specialize in this.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:Yeah, yeah, I think it's for everybody. It's their own experience becomes the formative thing in their life. Yeah, the area in Germany where I grew up has turned out to be the mother bed of Babisir, bartonella and Peralia in Europe. And, however, I have to say that the European form of Lyme disease turns out to be much easier treatable than the American version, which clearly has manmade characteristics built into it that makes it so much more vicious.
Dr. Michele Burklund:Yeah, that definitely makes it difficult to. So tell us a little bit more about your five levels of healing, like how you developed it and really where you got your inspiration to develop it and utilize that.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:Yeah, I mean, of course, through my years in India, which was the reason why I was there for some very deep spiritual experiences, to experience healing on a very different level than what we experience here, and then, in the years I studied psychology, I saw the limits and the beauty of psychotherapy and then very early on in my practice, which was in San Rafael, new Mexico, but by the way, for a while we were the second largest pain center in the country.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:Seattle was at the university was. Dr Bonica was a big guru of pain management but had a clinic there. But at the time pain management wasn't on the map of American physicians and me and a brilliant osteopathic physician, dr James Bond, in San Rafael established the San Rafael Pain Center and we had our own radiologist. We had access to surgery to be doing quite invasive things with pain management. So we've learned our way around that.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:But the main discovery, you know the center was limelitle bit by the time we got very deeply into pain management we realized that many chronic pain syndromes had everything to do with chronic infections and that link between chronic pain and chronic illness and chronic infections has to become hugely documented now in the literature. But we kind of were early on with that, and then, of course, taking a deep dive into that we realized that infections only grow in contaminated body terrains, and that's usually the heavy metals that play a huge role there.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:And then the question came up why does not everybody, with the same burden, get the same knowledge? And then we realized, okay, there was more to the human condition, and then we explored what's now called the energy body you know, which is all the phenomena of physics that happen in our body the emission of biophotons from the cells, of electric impulses, the micro circuits that happen in the brain and that you can actually diagnose and treat on that level as well.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:And you know, this is sort of where acupuncture comes in the work with introvert light and sauna therapy and magnetic fields and microcarina, you know, which now sort of is slowly making its impact in conventional circles, and then we realized that wasn't it?
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:you know sort of that, when people had early trauma history and life, that the outcome of things that would work on everybody else would not be so good, and that we actually had to go to the level of psychology to address the early trauma and resolve, help the patient resolve that. And so I was actually the first one in the US to use eye movement, and eye movement technique you know that's later on, through Mr Shapiro, became like famous under the name EMDR. But we were using that technique way before and so and then realized, okay, well, that was the key to a lot of illnesses.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:And then, however, it didn't stop there and then still you know, looking at the treatment failures, we realized that the trauma that is affecting the health of people can actually be the trauma that happened in the family and the generations before the patient lived to the parents, the grandparents, the great grandparents, and we started to explore the realm.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:You know what's in psychology called now transpersonal psychology, but these are influences on our health that are beyond our own life, that didn't start with conception until now. The influence would actually go as much further back, and so, to put that in a framework, I remembered my teachings that are received in India, the teachings of Patanjali. He is the guy who probably five to 12,000 years ago nobody knows created yoga, and yoga was meant to be a technique to cleanse the body in a way that you can connect with the divine easier. You know the recognition that the toxic, contaminated body, you cannot pray, you cannot connect to the divine, the divine cannot connect to you. That you're sort of like your body vibrations are on a whole different level that has nothing to do with the higher levels, and so basically the sequence that evolved is.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:And then there is this thing in philosophy called downward causation. That means if you have a trauma on a higher level, let's say you know your parents were holocaust victims somehow one of them survived it, and so you know you gave life, and then your parents or grandparents are hoping to leave that behind and you're now living a life. But you spent your whole life in fear and eventually fear will eventually affect the kidneys and then sort of when you may present to the physician with the catmium overload in the kidneys and beginning kidney failure, and so then, yes, you can detox catmium and that may help for a moment and this is an ongoing job anyway. You can cut me a lot of the kidneys, but you can do that and the patient will improve as long as they stay on treatment. But if you can go back and be on the level where the actually original was, to heal the people that died in the holocaust and to heal the people that emerged from it alive a few of them and the people that were traumatized because of our family members, when you go there with the healing, then suddenly there's this trickle down effect that we call downward causation that heals on all levels, and it's, of course, very, very cost effective for the patient, because you do one treatment and over a few weeks or months afterwards everything cleans itself up. You stop retaining metals, the immune system wakes up and deals with the infections, and your energy body straightens out. Your chakras open up, your meridians open up, your autonomic nervous system becomes functional, your mind gets clear, you stop heavy anxiety and so you sleep better at night, with all the consequences of that, and it's very profound.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:So we call that the five levels of healing and this when a patient comes to us, we try to make an assessment that not only applies to the physical body, by doing the regular functional medicine stuff. It's nice and good, but it's not complete. And then we have I've developed a technique the IRT, the autonomic response testing that allows us to, beyond the lab work to test the energy body. That's primary what we do, but then we can, once we clean that up, we very easily stumble into the what we call the mental body, that's the realm of psychology, and find all sorts of issues. There are traumatic events, unresolved conflicts that we deal with quickly and easily without complicating it, and then that may open up the access to the fourth level. You know we suddenly receive like big issues raining down from above.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:And then, yes, there's the fifth level of that sort of connection, that the individual connection that the patient has with the divine and I do not interfere with that that is private to the patient and should not be messed with, like some gurus try and some psychotherapists try and some regular people try. That is not to be messed with.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:So that's pretty much it so we have these five levels and they're all interactive with each other, of course, and illnesses can be caused on each one of the five levels, and it's a wrong assumption that somebody has back pain, that it's just the pressure of the disc on a nerve and when you remove the disc everything will be fine. Well, it may be, maybe for a while, or the pain moves somewhere else, and it's best to use the method of diagnosing, looks at all the levels and accommodates treatment that address all of the issues.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:This is you know of course, as a physician, you have a limited time and a particular visit and it's always good to start on the physical level and work your way up, but not to linger on the physical level forever. Like most people, you know, like the about the two years of taking vitamins and supplements and herbs, that kind of thing. Well, I just need to find the right combination of vitamins and I will get well.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:So I keep looking and looking and looking and spending more and more money on very very sophisticated, however, increasing delicate blood tests and breath tests and urine tests and skin tests and x-rays and ultrasound and imaging techniques and now the whole body. Mri is now popular and, yes, that gives us all valuable information, but it pretty much shows the outcome of something deeper that has happened in the patient, and most chronic illness has components that go all the way up to the fourth level.
Dr. Michele Burklund:Right, yeah, I completely agree with you and you're really like a pioneer in the mind body medicine build and you combined a lot of different elements, especially taking, like, the ancient Vedic culture and the beliefs there and really combining it with the medicine. Like, to me, it's there is no question that all of those things are deeply tied in and that's that's the real way to heal. Well, you kind of already answered this question, but I'll ask you it, just if you have other thoughts is what's your personal view on how emotions affect the body?
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:Emotions, you know, are complex events you know sort of on a physical level. You can explain emotions with the mix of neurotransmitters that have been exited into the bloodstream, by the autonomic nervous system usually, and the effect on the brain. The subjective effect is the particular set of feelings, but you can also look at it. On the second level, it's the activation of certain aspects of the autonomic nervous system highly involved.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:Now we know from beautiful researchers on this level that the vagus nerve which is sort of kind of half the autonomic nervous system, that the vagus nerve is highly involved with that, and there's changes in electrochemical changes that can be measured. Now you know so many happy emotions. You can do the heart rate variability and other tests to look at it on this level. Or the psychologist will look at it on the third level and look at more what triggered the emotion and deal with that. And so emotions are complex but they're typically triggered by perceptions. That's, you know, for the sensory organs. That's a second level issue in our system and that triggers then a storm of events. You know that is affecting the brain, how it behaves, what it perceives, how it filters things. And then you get this excretion or neurotransmitters in the bloodstream.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:They're in reverse stream through the brain and change the brain chemistry and it's also why the emotions are really a wild thing and I think I'm suspecting, if there's other planets and other beings out there that they don't have that I think it's a unique thing to us humans and makes us very human and precious. It's a beautiful feedback system that we have. You know we can if somebody is in an emotion with this anger or sadness or whatever it is usually we can recognize it in their face, which is the biggest nerve expressing itself in that way.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:So the autonomic ganglia and the innovation of the of the faces, which is different from the innovation of your shoulders and your belly muscles, and then so emotions are a beautiful, complex thing, but usually they're secondary to something else and sort of looking at that you know.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:The way emotions really go is like you have a perception, you see something, you hear something, and then it goes to the filter of your beliefs. Prior experiences gets filtered out and then leads to the feeling, and then that then determines your choices and your actions that follow, and so emotions have an important role in all of that.
Dr. Michele Burklund:Right, yeah, and I think you explained it really well because it's it's all about the perception, and the beliefs too, of how the emotions are expressed, and so getting to the root of that and finding the truth of the experience and and removing all the limited beliefs and the associations and everything that that's attached to it and then causes the responses in the body. Now, moving on to the next question, you have developed a method called the autonomic response testing. So really, what is that technique and how do you use this technique in your clinical practice?
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:So, by the way, I was just going back to the last one, I forgot an important piece here. So there's a German wonderful brain researcher, a professor somewhere, who really made the point, improved the point that COVID was a targeted attack on the hippocampus. That's the structure in the brain next to the amygdala. Both those structures are highly involved how we feel and what we feel, and that is sort of like now greatly under attack and changes on a very deep level who we are.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:But this is sort of like just a little finishing note on the emotions and so autonomic response testing, of course, is the outcome of a lot, of a lot of learnings For me it started in Germany learning electroecho-puncher, according to Dr Foll.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:Some of the listeners may have had treatment with that. You know where you either measure the current flow through acupuncture points in their hand and then there's a machine that then puts frequencies into the system and see which ones correct the readings that you're getting, and that was developed by Dr Foll. And Dr Foll happened to be my family physician when I grew up, so I kind of thought that was medicine. You know, to actually use electrodermal testing, as it's called now, electrodermal screening, eds that that was the real medicine, the real diagnosing method. I was surprised when I went to medical school when is it? Nobody was teaching it, and if they were aware of it they were poo-pooing it and so on.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:However, you know it's what got our family through very hard times, and so that was my beginning and sort of, and then I was very good at it and then moved to America and the first thing that happened, within really like three or four months of starting my medical practice at the time in Santa Fe, the medical board sent its soldiers to my clinic and they arrested that instrument.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:So I was without instrument and so I had to then decide, you know. So, based on my understanding, this was all. The testing that Dr Foll had developed was all related to changes in the autonomic nervous system, which were, as it turns out, through the research of Candace Perth, who actually got a Nobel Prize, for it actually turns out that the autonomic nervous system is in control of the white blood cells of the immune system. That is often forgotten. We always talk about the immune system and the different cells and the monocytes and what they're all doing or so, but they all have receptors in the cell wall that receives messages spilled into the blood by the autonomic nervous system, and so I was aware of that from my own thesis, from my own research, and so I was looking for other techniques to assess the autonomic nervous system and so the first thing.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:I came across, of course, in the US was applied kinesiology with Dr Guthard. So I took the so-called hundred hour training and that became very proficient in using that and then I realized the mistakes that were in it and I was looking for other techniques and I found the professor Yushiaki Umura in New York, who was a brilliant, brilliant Japanese researcher who developed a different way of manual muscle testing using the finger muscles, the muscles that make a ring between the fingers, and they are prying them apart and if the stress and the autonomic nervous system weakens the ring and if the autonomic nervous system signals the healing response to something, it strengthens the o-ring test. There was a test that was closer to my heart and so I developed that and then gradually over time merged the techniques and the knowledge that I had about that and that evolved into the autonomic response testing, which my humble opinion is clearly currently the best way of manual testing that is superior to the AK, superior to the o-ring test alone and superior to electro acupuncture. With the ART test we've been able to develop treatments for Lyme disease that are non-toxic, purely biological, that work and the literature is always following the literature. The emerging in medicine supports what we found. We found solutions for Epstein-Barre, we found solutions for all the pain related issues that are very profound, that go quite a number of levels deeper than what other techniques have brought to light, and so that's really all I can say. And so when we do the testing it looks pretty much like a mix of kinesiology and o-ring testing, and so it's both as part of the technique and it's a technique that is not depending on me. We've taught virtually thousands of students worldwide, the largest contingent of the practitioners in Australia, new Zealand, india. There is a huge group of practitioners in Europe Sweden, denmark, germany, and then now it's also swept into Russia and into the Eastern European countries, and so it's around.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:It's just in the US. There is even old friends that aren't functional medicine sort of, because there is a slow learning curve to it. It's not a popular technique in the US. Everything has to be like McDonald's kind of drive by.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:You know you learn one technique and for one day, and then that's what you use, and this takes a bit longer, and so it doesn't have the popularity in the US that it deserves, but it's. You know, the current times are not supporting long learning curves, you know, supporting the quick and easy and sort of. Of course, ordering a lab test Requires the stroke of a pen, as you don't have to learn any particular thing with that and so and you know this, right now people spend thousands of dollars in lab tests and then the outcome is always predictable that you're trying to fix the patient's condition with giving a particular group of supplements or herbs or medicines and then hoping for the best you know, and if it's not working, or working just a little bit, you sort of, then you try more lab testing and you go forth and back, you know sort of, and eventually probably have the best protocol that's possible on the physical level, but it's still the patient still isn't all the way well.
Dr. Michele Burklund:Right, I completely agree with you on that too. I think, especially in the US, it's moved to physical tests and you lose that connection with the patient and seeing them and feeling them and having them be exposed to different therapies. So it's really gone a different way. But I think this podcast and bringing that information out there, I think there are physicians that want to bring that back, that element and combine it all in a different way too. So I'm thankful you're teaching that to physicians and practitioners as well.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:And we have. I do have a team of doctors with me at the Sophia Health Institute in. Woodenwell which is the suburb of Seattle. We do have a team of practitioners that are very good with it and are equally following what we've learned and are equally proficient in doing it.
Dr. Michele Burklund:Yeah, and that's great. You can offer it there too. I think that people come pretty much from all over the world to go to your clinic in Woodenville and in the Seattle area too to have those treatments and to have that unique experience. Yeah, so the next question I have for you is what are the seven most common factors that block or stress the healthy functioning of the nervous system?
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:Yeah, so this has been used in the making. Actually just published a book on that, the Seven Factors of Healing. Now let me see if I can get them together. So on the physical level, it's mostly infections and toxins that are affecting people.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:But infections- also exert their effect on the human body by either secreting viral toxins or by arousing the immune system, when the immune system creates all the symptoms. So that's one factor. And then one of the big overlooked ones is the structure. When people have lost teeth or have a poor bite, we know now with all the research there's a huge effect on the brain, on the acetylcholin production, on brain fog and memory problems and all the things that people complain about. Now Nobody looks at the structure. So we are very busy and sending people to have the teeth worked on you in different ways to get it's clear from the research that people when they've lost teeth and get a regular denture, there's no positive effect on the brain.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:But if they get ceramic implants and build up the bite and so the patient can actually chew properly, that repairs the brain damage from it. So this is so. Factor number two is the structure of the body, and then of course we know chiropractic and osteopathy, the fantastic tools to correct things on the level. That will indeed all have effects on the rest of the body, really primarily through the autonomic nervous system. Then there's the thing that's kind of not well known in the US is the effect of what's called interference fields. Typically are scars from surgeries. So scars are different tissue from normal body tissue and when we moving they're building up a fictional electricity that constantly discharges itself in the autonomic nervous system and also in the sensory nervous system, and then the signal goes to the hypothalamus and then the hypothalamus directs the autonomic nervous system and the signal is going from there to a particular body part, and so it's common that a scar from a C section causes migraine headaches, or that appendectomy scar which typically causes the growth of fibroids and other problems in the pelvic area.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:And I could give you along any other scars from the tonsillectomy very often later in life cause knee pain, and so rather than treating the knee pain, we treat the scars, and so that treatment is called neural therapy, and there's actually a great meeting coming up in Seattle in I think it's the beginning of the first week of April. Jeff Harris is the naturopath in Seattle who now runs the North American Academy of Neural Therapy. So that's a wonderful tip for some of you guys that are actually. I mean, condition is that you're allowed to inject and then that's all you need, and then you get some wonderful, simple tools to help the patient. And the other issue on the second level is the electro smoke. So we know there is a huge growing body of literature on the effect of wifi and household electric fields and geopathic stress.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:There is sort of something I can lecture about for days, but the basic outcome if they're free with wifi, with the handy radiation is that it penetrates the body and in the cells that cause an opening of what's called a voltage gated calcium channels and the cell gets flooded with calcium and then leads to a cascade of reaction called the no or no cycle and at the end of that the cell produces peroxymetroid, which is rocket fuel. It's completely destructive to pretty much everything in the body, and so it's pretty simple the knowledge about it.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:Marty Paul Martin, paul P a l l is the one who wrote the most beautiful summary papers on this. And there's something I know most natural paths, most medical doctors, are completely underestimating the destructiveness of that. And of course we're all based in it 24 seven. There's no control group. You know somebody because, hey look, this person looks in the park, lives in a part of town where there's no wifi. But I can give you an example, you know, sort of the direct impact in the Seattle area.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:So for some strange reason, covid broke loose in America, in Seattle, and not just in Seattle, but in a particular part of Seattle called Kirkland, and Kirkland happened to be the first place in the US that prided itself. That was for the first. That was the first part of the US where 5g was completely switched on. It was the very first place. And just a few months before COVID broke loose. And so, and then the interesting thing was that then the patients on old folks homes that got so sick with it, they happened to live in old folks homes that had completely newly established complete 5g access in them. And so, and then these poor patients that got sick were brought to one particular hospital that was chosen chosen to have a green hospital in Kirkland which, prided itself, was the first hospital in the US that fully had switched on 5g, and the death rate of the people that went there was 60% 60. That means out of 10 patients that went there when he four came out alive. And so in the background, I'm being honest with the authorities and anybody else.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:I got involved and so informed the different old folks homes that still had some alive people and told them there is another solution, and so I'm not going to tell you what that was, but we that changed the music and then the death rate went way, way down.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:But this is sort of like the one of the seven factors is white fight environment. So then there is, of course we want to give it some credit is the effect of nutritional or microcarin, micro nutrient deficiencies, which now have become very, very common, and the reason is pretty simple. So when we look at spinach today, there is no more iron and spinach. When we look at the overall content of basic elements in the food, that has dramatically decreased in the last 60 or 70 years to catastrophic amounts. So to get enough zinc and iron and molybdenum and all the other basic elements from the food is harder and harder. And so, and if people have a disturbed gut, like most people have now, from whatever the reasons are, but they call it leaky gut or SIBO or hand absorption, whatever it is but in addition to the food not containing really what our daily needs are, we are also having trouble absorbing and extracting from the food what we need. So, yes, some micro nutrient assays and all that have a valuable place and should not be considered on their own. So when I'm beyond that, of course we have the field of psychology that I mentioned before.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:Unresolved trauma is certainly one of the seven factors. Unresolved conflict, unresolved trauma are constantly decreasing the patient's vitality and ability to be resilient towards stresses and have direct connections to particular subsets of symptoms. And so it's one of the seven factors, yes, so that we always look at. And then one already mentioned is the higher psychological issues that have to do with past family issues, conflicts, trauma, and of course you know this on this level is also the more darker side of the spiritual world that I don't want to talk about it here, it's not the appropriate thing, but there is other forces that influence us that can greatly contribute to medical illness, and there certainly is a room for prayer and for meditation and for the softer techniques.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:I'm pretty sure I've forgotten one or two of the factors. I don't have the list here in front of me, but I think that's pretty complete. So we try to understand that there is only seven possible causes of illness. It's not like the whole world of possibilities that makes us think it can really be subdivided in some issues. Each of them has their own diagnostic approaches and each of them has their own treatment approaches, and when they're appropriately used, treatments tend to be gentle, they tend to be biological, they tend to be inexpensive and they tend to be available everywhere.
Dr. Michele Burklund:Okay. And you said you just wrote a book on the seven factors as well.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:It's like all my books in German. Oh yeah, it's interesting. After all these years we haven't found any publishers that are interested in my work and so I just you know I'm relaxed with that, you know, if I'm not pushing myself, you know, to replace, like other people do and I'm not a clever marketing person sort of that has like some ideas and then, you know, put some together with all the knowledge that's out there and put the clever book together. That is, other people are doing good jobs with that, you know, and I don't want to diminish that. It's important that people put the current knowledge that's out there together. But I do that in Germany, where I'm very, very popular with that, and so I go with that. I go where I'm asked to go.
Dr. Michele Burklund:Right, and this is a great way to bring it to the people here too. If we can't read the book or if it's in German, it's good to understand and understand all the factors to involved in it.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:Yeah, I do want to say, you know, sort of I've set up, you know, my practice in wooden build In a way that we addressing all those issues, you know very delivery with our patients, and so of course I've distributed some of the chores to some of the other physicians. We have a gifted person working with the psychological aspects it's debilist range and so but we have our own subspecialists, you know. So, each of the seven levels, of course it's not for everybody to do everything. That was my job for many years, and so now I'm trying to do just what I love doing on a particular day and then delegate the other things to the people that work close with me, right, right, and so tell us a little bit more about that.
Dr. Michele Burklund:What are some of the unique modalities that you use to treat patients at the Sophia Health Institute in the US?
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:So, first of all, it's my diagnostic work up. You know, I, yes, I look at the lab worker, look at the big markers, but I don't have this patient spend thousands of dollars initially, but occasionally, yeah, I mean I have to go there. But basically I do my AIT exam and go very carefully through the seven factors and so, for example, enough to detect the effect of the of the Wi-Fi on a patient.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:We have a particular subset of tests that focuses on the pineal gland, which is the most sensitive organ and the body to Wi-Fi, and then, have ways of assessing the home so we may send a SWAT team to the homes to look at the ticks and measurements of the intensity of radiation that's in the sleeping location and other places in the home. So that will be one one aspect of it. One thing I'm very good at and only one of the few physicians in the US is doing normal therapy, which is the looking at the scars and autonomic ganglia and treat them in the dysfunctional. For example, I may put DMPS into the senopalatine ganglion. I may inject ozone into the tonsils. I may typically use ozone and many of the joint problems. I use, whenever it's available, artisthenate to treat cancer and use injectable. You know, cocomand and some of the sphermideen and other things that are available if you're looking for it. I do a very careful exam of the bite and typically send people to a dentist who actually can follow our guidance on that and is willing to do that. Let me see what else we do. Yeah, we do the low dose immunotherapy. That was a three day offshoot of homeopathy, you know, but we'll be testing very carefully if somebody is affected.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:Currently very, very many people are affected by strep. I know that pertussis whooping cough, is around very, very prevalent but people don't look at that and so I made for that, established an herbal antibiotic protocol. I may inject ozone, like I said, tonsils and lymphatics. I use acupuncture. I use many manual techniques so I'm kind of known for my neck treatments for people that had replash injuries. That's a complicated and complex manipulation procedure where the joints and nerves of the neck are numb temporarily with procaine and that is a very strong manipulation of the neck traction torsion manoeuvre that has saved many, many people from chronic neck pain. And yes, we do intravenous therapies. We use a lot of intravenous herbal products but also the usual ozone and UBBI and the. You know the nutrients, vitamin C like to use a chance here to say that you know.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:So vitamin C typically arrives in glass bottles, and the glass is made of aluminum silicate. And so what happens? When the company you know, whether MacGuff or whoever produces some dissolves the vitamin C and puts it in a bottle and that sits on the shelf for a few months and it comes to you, the vitamin C actually leaches out aluminum, and so most of the supplies of vitamin injectable vitamin C that arrive at the offices and the US are highly loaded with aluminum, and so it should be in boron glass or some other thing, or it should be a dry powder that you reconstitute at the time of injection, or it should be a very short way between producing it and using it, and so we use a variety of that.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:Paying attention to that, I think very unique for us is also our approach to aluminum toxicity.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:Now we found out that through a German researcher a wonderful gifted brain researcher and a medical doctor was a woman actually and she did research on the ionic foot bath and showed that 30 minute ionic foot bath that's a fetus Hispanic in water and there's a coil in there and that it leads to a two to 400 fold release of aluminum through the urine and the patient within the next few days afterwards. And so we've been trying to diagnose aluminum toxicity in everybody, which is really the big overlooked toxin of our time that Chris actually and other researchers have shown it's the main cause of the brain deterioration in the US. It's aluminum really in combination with Lyme disease and the Epstein virus and the Herpes virus and all that is more secondary and mercury is always in the pie. And so we diagnose that we may put people on very strict mercury detox program which involves plant derived compounds and involves giving binders like Cruella, but also involves intravenous therapies that we very carefully select from what's available and we use compounds that are difficult to find that are very, very highly effective in getting mercury out. And just maybe, as a reminder, you know aluminum detox is a completely different animal from detox.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:Mercury and lead Lead toxicity is sort of one of my more recent hobbies.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:It's overlooked how huge the burden of the American society is with lead. It's in the bone and if you do just a urine test or a head test it won't show, but it causes osteoporosis and shrinking of the bone and when you get older it slowly gets released and causes reverse toxicity. That is very, very profound and so we're looking at all that, and so pretty much every patient that I see walks out with a strong detox program which usually will take a year or two or three to get to an endpoint with that or to reasonable level with that. But the treatment results are dramatic when you approach this a proper way.
Dr. Michele Burklund:Wow. So you do a lot of unique and very powerful treatments there and a lot of things that people aren't even aware of that are affecting their bodies.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:Then of course you know there is the whole area of psychology. You know where I've developed my own techniques the PK work and the MFT mental field therapy the way targeted approaches that address trauma and conflicts and patients and unresolved issues. And then, in addition to that, once a week in the office I do family constellation work. That's the work to really heal ancestral trauma. Yeah, and so that's offered to my patient. Not everybody takes me up on that offer, but it's fantastic when people do it. The treatment results are beautiful.
Dr. Michele Burklund:Right, yeah, and it's powerful to combine all of those two. Okay, so I have one last question for you today. In today's age, what is your view on the electromagnetic fields that people are exposed to on a daily basis and what are some simple actions that they can take to limit their exposures?
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:Yeah, I mentioned already you know the biology of Wi-Fi, you know the deepest level of what it does. Now everybody is exposed to it and so it's really a question of minimizing our exposures. So the first issue is you know that the Wi-Fi router people have at their home is a cell phone tower. You know, sort of in the Wi-Fi router, when it's switched on, is a transmitter or very, very huge, unpredictable amounts of radiation that covers the entire home. So this one you know. So the Wi-Fi router needs to be off when it's not used, and it definitely needs to be off at night, and the best solution is to get rid of it and to get a wired connection which is not expensive and it's easy to do.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:But that's a tough one to the American to convince them, when many people really say I'd rather die of cancer than give up my Wi-Fi router. Yeah, so that's really sort of what we are up against with that. And then there is the effects of dirty electricity, underground currents that's sort of the normal electric currents in the household. There are tend to build up strengths of fields in different areas in the house, and if your sleeping location has to be in the part of a field, you have no chance. You know that's the most common cause of insomnia and then chronic huge participator in developing chronic illness, and so the best solution is to switch the fuses off at night for the entire house. That has cured a lot of people from their chronic illness.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:But again a lesser solution of that is a switch that electricians know how to install. It's called a demand switch, that's a wireless tool that you have by your bedside and you push a button that switches off all the fuses that control the circuitry of your bedroom, and that's a wonderful tool.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:And again, it's not every patient takes me up on that. So people really say they rather like the convenience and I said well, really, all I'm asking you is to buy a $3 flashlight, to put it by a nightstand and to have this thing with the button there. It costs a couple of hundred bucks to install. That, it's not astronomically expensive. So that's another tool. Then, of course, there's geopathic stress. Geopathic stress is radiation that comes from the earth. It's very, very common in the Seattle area because we are on a group of fault lines that run under our buns, through the houses and through the clinics and through the environment, and so when you're on a sleeping location is on one of those lines, we'll get sick. So I'll give you an example. So this was a woman that came in once for treatment.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:She had brain cancer and a large tumor in the brain, malignant tumor and so I diagnosed with my test that she was sleeping on one of those stress lines and that she needed to change that location. And so she went home, didn't contact me for a while and she called me, like after a few months, and said Dr Klinger, I got good news. My tumor is now shrunk to the size of a cherry. It was the size of an orange, and so after a few months it was completely gone without any further treatment. And then, a few years later, the sad news came in.
Speaker 1:She called me without ever seeing her in between.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:She called me and said this is not just going to tell you my son at the time of the one concert I had with her, the son was like four years old, and so she said so this is now two or three years later. The son must be six or seven. She said you know, my son just died. You know he had the same brain tumor that I had. And then I said OK, wait a moment.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:Ok, when I asked you two years ago to move your sleeping locations, did you actually do that? He said, yeah, I did it. I moved into the location where my son was sleeping. And then what you do with your son? Well, I moved him to where I was sleeping. So he was sleeping on that same location where she got a brain tumor. He got the same brain tumor and died from it. And so people tend to have a lot of common sense or intelligence, and so we need to kind of be a bit more aware. So the sleeping location can be a huge impact in terms of the electromagnetic exposures, or this may be ionizing radiation from the earth. So that's one set of tools that we use to diagnose and do simple things like this. But then, on a more physical level, yes, we do have proof that the protective clothing works.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:The shirts that have metalized threads in them. They do reflect Wi-Fi and so we have different companies also the sleep sanctuary we call it looks like a mosquito net that people put over the bed. That really hugely reduces the incoming Wi-Fi from the neighborhood. You know, assuming people have switched off their own Wi-Fi router and dealt with the electric fields in the bedroom, calm that down. Then the sleep sanctuary is incredibly effective in helping people to get their health back. There's a company that I have there's probably others, but it's called littletreegroupcom that makes custom, makes those four people, and there's blankets and things. But I'm a strong friend of the shirts that cover, like, the large body parts. It's the overall body surfaces that are exposed to it that matter, so you don't have to kind of cover everything, but the large body parts should be covered with it, and so I work with that, I walk with that.
Speaker 1:The things that are available are not super expensive and extremely effective.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:I know there's people argue oh no, no, this cannot work in a bed. Physics and the blah, blah, blah Well.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:I've done it for 30 years. It works so. And then there's internal things that can people can do. There's certain herbs like rosemary there's a populace that have been shown to be hugely radio protective and so I always test people with my technique for those, and so there's very few patients who mind that are not on rosemary tincture or on populace tincture. So those are the key tools to protect the cells from the incoming Wi-Fi radiation.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:And there's of course I have a whole day of electronic this, but these are some of the key pieces to that.
Dr. Michele Burklund:All right, that's excellent, and we're be sure to put up all your information too, and the resources you have and the links to your website, so everybody can find it or, if they want to dig a little bit more, get more information on it as well.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:Yeah, thanks, Michelle. It was nice connecting with you.
Dr. Michele Burklund:Yeah, thank you so much for taking the time today and telling us about your whole process and your different modalities, so I greatly appreciate it and I'm thankful to share it with my audience too.
Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt:But people shouldn't forget that life is good, life is precious and they enjoy it, and so let's keep it that way and make life easy. There's just a few things that need to be addressed, and then life will be good for most people.
Dr. Michele Burklund:Exactly, I agree, just bringing them back more into balance with themselves. Well, thank you very much, thank you.
